Full disclosure: I did all the things I’m writing about in this report on the same day that I wrote the last report on. It’s just that I like to vary my postings so it isn’t all just about one game over and over. Anyway, here goes…
- Suikoden 3 review: A fitting end to a great trilogy. The practice is left to be desired as each character has a different amount of open skill slots, as well as a vastly different adeptness at.
- Rune slot is where you can equip the Rune you got or buy. Characters can Equip the Rune in their Right Hand, Left Hand and Head. Average Magician can gain 3 Rune Slot. While Average Fighters can gain 2 Rune Slots.
A-G Alanis -3 Rune Slots Augustine -Parry Ayame -Repel, Holy Dash Emily -Swing Estella -Fire Magic, 3 Rune Slots Fred -Shield Protect Gadget Z -Fighting Spirit H-N Hallec -Swing Hugo -Repel Jacques -Sharpshoot Joker -3 Rune Slots Juan -Heavy Damage, Continual Attack Kenji -Holy Dash Landis -Freeze, Thief, Magic Resistance Leo. Suikoden 3 is guilty of changing way too many things, leaving you with a game bearing the Suikoden name, but not feeling in any particular way LIKE a Suikoden game. Of course, I still played it for, like, 100 hours or whatever because gently caress there's a load of bullshit and super tough secrets and really hard characters to recruit and holy. Rune The Rune command is used to cast magic spells First, select a character with magic ability. The available Runes will be displayed. Highlight the Rune you wish to use and select it with the B Button. Certain Runes—such as the Fire and Water Runes—can be used after they have been lodged in the characters body.
That’s how many stars I have. Well, technically, I’m at 104 out of 108, because Gremio and Pahn died, but that’s another issue.
Two characters gave me major trouble and recruiting both of them is related to the caves behind Qlon, so I thought I’d write about it in detail in case anyone else has trouble. The title is for Google to find it easier (I think).
Suikoden – Find the Window Crystal/ Window Rune and recruit Window
The window crystal / window rune is in the Qlon caves. The thing is. most of the guides hint that it’s easily found. It wasn’t for me. The window crystal is actually in a secret room in the Qlon cave, behind the hidden passage. Here’s how to find it, in slide show:
… then up and down the stairs…
Follow the regular route to the end of the cave until you reach this fork and go down.
This is where it get’s tricky. The south wall on this picture hides a secret passage.
Follow it (you have to wiggle left and right for a bit to navigate through it…
…and you’ll get into the room with the window crystal.
Finally, give the crystal/rune to Window in the Warrior’s Village.
So back to text, once you get to the part of the cave where the path forks straight up and straight down, with the upper road leading to a room with a chest, take the down path and then go through a secret passage through the wall in the next room. You will see the passage if you go down far enough. The camera will scroll to show part of it.
The other character related to Qlon cave is Crowley. Here´s how you get Crowley.
Suikoden – How to Recruit Crowley
In order to get Crowley, you already need a max level castle. I was at 105 stars when I recruited him (counting Gremio and Pahn who died), but you can probably be lower than that. I think the fourth level castle is actually the only requirement.
In any case, Crowley is in another secret room in the caves behind Qlon temple. Here’s some pictures to show were:
This area should be easy to find. Go down the stairs…
See this flat wall in the next room? Go through it. Again, you’ll have to wiggle your way through…
…and recruit this guy.
So again, in words, from the room with a set of stairs on a platform next to a chest, go down the stairs, then through the next room and through the flat southern wall in the room after that to find Crowley. You can find him early on, but you need a level 4 castle to recruit him.
So these two characters gave me trouble. Most of the others I was missing were easy and some were impossible, as in, I missed my chances to get them.
To recruit the dancer, you need Toe Shoes equipped on the hero. I was missing this the entire game, so I thought I should mention this explicitly.
I thought there’d be a special pair of shoes, but it’s just Toe Shoes.
There are also character’s I’ve missed that could have been obtained over the course of the game. For that, here’s another Google-friendly title…
NOTE: The characters here are just the character’s I know I’ve missed. There may actually be more than just these four.
Mace
Mace is the fourth blacksmith and the only one able to raise everyone’s weapons to their maximum level 16. To recruit him, you need the other four blacksmiths in your party and then visit him in his house in Seek Valley. Most wouldn’t consider him missable, since you can return to the valley whenever you wish, but if you wait until the last moment, you won’t have the four free slots in the party you need to take the other blacksmiths with you. That’s the only issue with mace and the only reason I didn’t recruit him.
Kwanda
Kwanda is the first general you defeat, the one with the burning mirror weapon. Apparently, you can spare him, in which case you recruit him. At that point, I was so trained by the fake choices Suikoden was offering me, I didn’t want to go through the motions and just had him executed. Apparently, I was wrong.
Pahn
Pahn isn’t missable, but Pahn’s death is avoidable. If you do the duel correctly, you can survive and Pahn stays with you. I didn’t do it correctly and got killed in a single attack.
Gremio
Gremio’s death is unavoidable, but he can be revived before the game ends, under one extremely important condition – you need to have the other 107 characters, including Pahn, all already recruited. During the last speech, when Leknaat pays you a visit, she’s able to snatch Gremio from the moment of his death, which kind of explains his clothes and weapon on the ground where he died, without his body, though it really doesn’t, since he’s rescued with his clothes on.
In the end, I was missing two characters (Mace and Kwanda) and I failed to rescue/revive two (Pahn and Gremio). I also didn’t collect all the paint for the painting, all the Window Settings or all the Menu Sounds, but I’m fine with that. The way I understand it, most of these items are collected as drops from enemies and I don’t really feel like doing that.
I feel I’ve played through the experience that is Suikoden well enough. I greatly enjoyed the game and now I can move on to another one, though this will be only in a few weeks, not sooner. Why? I’ll tell you in my next PS1 game report, whichever game that may be.
I’ll give you a hint, though. Remember that guide on transferring saves I wrote? I might need it soon myself.
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Tips, Trik, and Cheat Suikoden 5# Completion bonus
Successfully complete the game and save when prompted. Start a new game and select the cleared saved game file. You will begin with the money from your previous game, collected formations, your Party SP, collected Epics, inventory and storage items, and your Hero’s name. Additionally, press L2 or Triangle to run faster.
# Super character
The following setup will basically make your character immortal:
Equip four Eyeball Rings
Rune Slot 1: A Strike-Back Rune
Rune slot 2: Double Edge Sword (If the character has a 2nd Rune slot)
Rune slot 3: Drain Rune (If the character has a 3rd Rune slot)
This setup is not cheap, but it is possible to handle many Bosses solo with it. You may need to remove the Double Edge rune from some characters because they do not have a lot of HP. Go to the big hole near the rotating bridge. In the area before the ruins, the Eyeball Ring is commonly dropped.
# Byakuren
An easy way to get Byakuren (the giant snake that attacks you when you cross the bridge in your Headquarters) is to have Levi (the magician) in your party and defeat him. Afterwards he will join your Star Of Destiny tablet.
# George
It is recommended that you do not level up George because you cannot use him in the final battle.
# Josephine
She is in Haud after the Battle Of Raftfleet (around there). You must have Lady Sialeeds in your party.
# Lady Sialeeds
It is recommended that you do not level up Lady Sialeeds because you cannot use her in the final battle.
# Muraad
He will be at every place where there is a large battle. Keep asking him until he joins at each of the places (such as Rainwall, Raftfleet, Lelcar, and Doorat).
# Oboro
When you are in Rainwall you will need him to advance in the story. When you are done speaking with him, go to the inn and talk to Norden. When you are done following the next few scenes, wait until after the battle of Raftfleet. He will be there and you can ask him to join. Note: You should do the bar scene or he will be difficult to get.
# Easy money and armor
Once you recruit Subala, store all of your party items with Chuck. Then, play the fishing game against Subala at your headquarters. When you play the fishing game, sometimes you will catch “? Pot” and parts of fish bodies. Play the fishing game about five or six times (depending upon your skill). Go to the closest appraiser and get all of your “? Pots” appraised. You can then turn around and sell the pots to the appraiser for a significant profit. It is possible to make over 200,000 Potch in one trip. The fish body parts are armor that you can equip on a few characters. This is good armor to have fairly early in the game.
# Skip boat sailing scenes
When you sail on a boat to a location, press Triangle while sailing to skip the boat trip and arrive immediately at your destination.
# Hidden bath scenes
Bring one of the following set of characters into the bath in your headquarters to trigger a hidden bath scene:
Scene 01: Josephine, Maroon, Faylen
Scene 02: Kisara, Lun, Subala
Scene 03: Eresh, Leilei, Shunmin
Scene 04: Zerase, Nikea, Bernadette
Scene 05: Lyon, Miakis, Roy
Scene 06: Flail, Byarkuren
Scene 07: Lu, Jeane, Marina
Scene 08: Nifsara, Norma, Linfa
Scene 09: Lorelai, Viki, Zweig
Scene 10: Isabel, Nelis, Sharmista
Scene 11: Lyon, Sialeeds
Scene 12: Maroon, Muroon, Faylon
Scene 13: Dinn, Isato, Matthias
Scene 14: Kyle, Gavaya
Scene 15: Roog, Nick, Rania
Scene 16: Ernst, Ax, Moroon
Scene 17: Logg, Retso
Scene 18: Levi, Wabon, Babbage
Scene 19: Alhazred, Ganoh, Sairoh
Scene 20: Zegai, Killey, Gunde
Scene 21: Nakula, Raven, Egbert
Scene 22: Rahal, Lance, Mohsen
Scene 23: Cathari, Hazuki, Urda
Scene 24: Bergen, Sorensen, Dongo
Scene 25: Georg, Richard, Yahr, Taylor
Scene 26: Shigure, Sagiri
Scene 27: Galleon, Goesch, Murad
Scene 28: Cornelio, Baslan
Scene 29: Cius, Haleth
Scene 30: Shoon, Takamu
Scene 31: Belcoot, Shinro
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link directly to this cheat “Untouchable”
For this TIP you need 3 rune slots characters(the earliest is Miakis).Equip her/him Wall Rune(you can find it in Lordlake when its revived).With Wall char. can only defend.Next put it Strike-Back Rune for Counter always,and at last equip Crazed orb for 2x dmg.It doesnt matter you cant control because you can only defend.Just put in first row(arrow stance formation and just use frm. skill).The dmg. will be minimal and should counter always.Crazed should really boost it up!!!
I got the ideal when I found Wall Rune and tought of Strike-Back Rune,Crazed was last!!!
Again my own TIP!!!
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Suikoden 2 Characters With 3 Rune Slots
link directly to this cheat Anti-bossOnce you get Ernst, you’ll never have to worry about boss fights again. Simply level him up to about Level: 45. Then, once you get into a boss battle, use Transformation on the first turn and Resounding Roar every turn after that. The boss won’t be able to use any attacks or do anything.
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Bad Ending
After Kyle joins your party at Rainwall, go upstairs to your room. When Lyon asks if you are ready for bed, say Yes. During the night you will have a conversation with Salum Barows. During the conversation, you will get three chances to respond to what he is saying. Choose the second option all three times. When Lyon interrupts, choose the second option for a final time. You will then be shown the bad ending and the game will end.
Bad Ending #2
When you finally confront the Imposter Roy in his bandit cave hideout he will challenge you to a duel. Accept his challenge, then lose(Make sure you used the savepoint earlier so you can reload the game afterwards). You will see another bad ending to the game.
Bad Ending #3
If you lose any of the three battles against Zahak, Alenia, or Galleon during the three squad boss fight, you will receive the third bad ending.
Bad Ending #4
If you choose to guard the castle instead of fleeing under the cloak of night, you will enter a War battle. After this war, Childerich and Roy will have a duel. If Roy loses this duel, you will be treated to another bad ending.
Bad Ending #5
In Sun Palace near the end of the game you will have a duel against Gizel. Lose the duel and you will receive the fifth bad ending.
link directly to this cheat Easy Healing
This TIP needs characters with 3 rune slots(like Killey,Lorelai,Kyle…etc.)First you equip them Multi Strike Rune(300 000 potch) for more attacks,further you equip them Killer Rune(300 000 potch) and any STR BOOST RUNE (like Boost,DBL. edged,Crazed…).Next step you equip them Eyeball ring (50 000-originally bought in Doraat).It drains 5% DMG to HP.Also equip them Sun,Dawn badge type equipment for further HP healing.Also put Marina in your entourage for healing each turn.In that case you should deal about 1000 dmg. every hit(if u put more STR BOOST RUNES dmg. is higher) and drain 100 to 200 HP every hit dependig on dmg.On every turn Marinas and Sun badge effect should take place.It should you about 100 or less HP.It is better to use characters with higher HP/endurance for longer battle standing.If you do it right every 3 slot character with STR(not magicians) should work.The characters should be on 55+ lvl. for 3 rune slots.Sharpen their WPN. on 16 lvl. gor higher dmg. with Platinum Hammer(found in Storimfist).Put them best armor for less dmg. but it should not really matter because you drain.I think thats all.For this TIP I didnt use any NET cheats or walkthroughs.I made from my own exp.About 3000 to 5000 dmg. dealt at MAX.!!!
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link directly to this cheat Extra Cash
If you’re low on cash, just stick Egbert and/or Norma in your party. Their Potch Finder skill will give you an extra 65% Potch each after every battle.
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link directly to this cheat Extreme Damage
How: Have Boost rune, Crazed rune,and Doubled-Edge rune.
Note that, the effect of the runes will be add up if the specific character you used had three free rune slot.
Head rune slot: Boost rune
Right-h rune slot: Crazed rune
Left-h rune slot: Doubled-Edge rune.
Instead inflicting 2x damage, you will inflict 6 times more damage than usual.Most of you all might probably know this tricks already…
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link directly to this cheat Fight against Jidan
After the battle for Sable (optional 10th war battle) Dinn joines fighting party then Lucretia tells you to pick your fighting party to go after Jidan.
You’re fighting Jidan and 5 Armes Bodyguard.
The battle trophy is Vengeful Child S (1) and Mother Earth Piece (1).
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link directly to this cheat Never get hit
This might not work for everyone, but it has worked all the times I have tested it.
Take a Firefly Orb and give it to Raven. His Raven Rune makes him untargetable, while the Firefly Orb makes it so that he’s the only person targeted. Instead of cancelling each other out, the enemy’s attack will miss every time.
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link directly to this cheat New Game +
After completing the game (regardless of how many stars you acquire), you will have the option to save your game. Loading this file will start a new game+, meaning you get benefits from your last play through. These include your Potch, formations, party SP and all of your items. Pressing L2 will also make you run faster.
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link directly to this cheat Richard VS. Raging Childrch
After the full war battle against Stormfist that has Childrch and Dhuber, Shoon will join you and show you the underground tunnel that goes to the arena. If you take Richard with you he will give a little speach about him losing the Sacred Games because he was drugged. He will ask you to let him fight Childrch. If you let him, then you have to use him to fight the one on one duel. if not then you do it yourself. The fight is realtively easy. You can figure out his attacks. long grunt means special. short grunt means attack and a lot of guh’s means defend.
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link directly to this cheat Southern Mountain Corps vs. Hero’s Army
One of the FAQs lacked this battle so I’m putting it here.
Southern Moutain Corps: 2800 Vs. Hero’s Army (depends on set up)
Battle Conditions:
To Win: Get Hero to Sable
Lose if: Hero is Killed
Battle Trophey:
30,000 Potch, Windspun Cape
For destroying Infintry: Crown of Destiny
For destroying R/ Archer: Flowing Piece
You have control of 10 units.
Enemy has:
3 infintry (one is a spear)
3 Archers (One has 1/1 Flowing, one has 1/1 Rage, and the 3rd one has 2/2 Barrage)
3 Calvary (Jidan is one and one of the calvaries has 1/1 charge)
They won’t attack unless approached.
You can decide the best tactics for this fight.
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Suikoden 2 3 Rune Slots
Please note this is only AFTER you have saved Lordlake.If you’re in an area where the enemies keep giving you a total beatdown, put someone like Gavaya or Goesch in your party with the Wall Rune and Firefly Rune. Then stick them in the front of a formation like Arrow Stance. They take almost no damage, leaving you free to level up against difficult foes.
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If you’re desperate for cash, you can take someone with Trade-In with you and immediately sell any items you pick up for cash. Just remember that instead of making 50% of an items value, you will only make 33%.
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Suikoden 3 Rune Slots
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link directly to this cheat RaftFleet GlitchSuikoden 3 Rune Slots
Staying at the Raftfleet Inn after the “Intercepting Luger’s Fleet” battle activates a glitch that takes you back to just before the battle begins,making you go through the entire thing again. This is a good way to farm Flowing Pieces and Luck Rings, and can be done over and over using the same method mentioned before. To end the glitch and continue on with the story, simply exit Raftfleet immediately after the battle without staying at the Inn